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The first stage of Brooks' personal quest states that if at any time you have 4 or more weaknesses, you take a 321 card and banish this. I was deliberately stocking up on weaknesses so I could complete this quest. As I understand it, there are
4 ill, exhausted, injured and confused At one point, I had 3 different weaknesses on Brooks. I got into a situation where I could take a duplicate of one of those weaknesses. Wanting to progress Brooks' quest, I reasoned that even if I had to 'immediately' take a penalty and return the duplicate weakness, there has still been a infinitesimally small point in time where I had 4 weaknesses first. Therefore, the 'when you have 4 or more weaknesses' condition of Brooks' quest would also be fulfilled, thereby also taking effect immediately. Faced with two immediate effects at the same time, I would be allowed to choose which one took effect first. (Spoilers for progressing Brooks' quest) The reward for progressing the quest, specified on card 321, allowed me to return 3 weaknesses and take a 099 (hope reborn) card. I reasoned that I could discard the duplicate weakness that I just pulled, thereby avoiding its 'immediate' penalty altogether. The question is: is that a valid interpretation of the order of events? Should I still have taken the penalty for the duplicate weakness I pulled before progressing the quest? Or should I never even have had the chance to progress Brooks' quest, since I actually had to resolve the immediate effect of the duplicate weakness first, after which I wouldn't 'ever have had' 4 weaknesses at a time? Posted
I cannot answer the timing question (allowing something to be done "at any time" usually causes trouble) but would like to remark that there is at least one more weakness card
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I'd argue - unofficially, and with nothing but my own gut to go on - that "immediately" effectively trumps "at any time". There is no time at which you have 4 weaknesses, because immediately upon drawing the duplicate you return it. Unless the quest card specifically said "immediately upon drawing your 4th weakness card" or something equivalent; then it would be a tie for you to choose between.
I'd also argue that in a coop and/or solo game, you should feel free to interpret the rules however you like. You did a clever thing; I wouldn't stress about it. Posted
DevNull wrote: I'd argue - unofficially, and with nothing but my own gut to go on - that "immediately" effectively trumps "at any time". There is no time at which you have 4 weaknesses, because immediately upon drawing the duplicate you return it. Unless the quest card specifically said "immediately upon drawing your 4th weakness card" or something equivalent; then it would be a tie for you to choose between. I confirm that this is indeed the correct interpretation. |
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